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01 MARCH 2008                                            ELFAQ803.TXT
|| Notes new or modified information

The Echobase Echolist Robot

Submissions can be made
Via Netmail        Via Email
echolist 1:1/21    echolist@fidonet.us
Note:
Effective DECEMBER, 2006 the echolist robot can be reach via routed netmail and email.
See ELHIS.TXT for details.

||MARCH 2008
||   Due to equipment problems, the February, 2008 Echolist was not published....the March,
||   2008 Echolist contains information for February and March 2008. 
||
NOVEMBER 2007
   Echomail/Routed Netmail problems
   Reports indicate a problem with echomail in the Echolist Echo and routed netmail not being
   delivered part the node that serves as uplink for the Echolist Robot.  New Echomail feed has
   corrected problem.

NODELIST CORRECTION
   The current nodelist has a corrected listing for the Echolist.

The Echolist Keeper
Thom LaCosta 1:261/1352     fidonet@fidonet.us

   The echolist is copywritten by Thom LaCosta.

   The Echolist Robot is maintained by Thom LaCosta(1:261/1352,
   fidonet@fidonet.us).

   The Robot is listed in the Fido Nodelist as Echolist 1:1/21

END OF MESSAGE
   The Echolist Robot recognizes any line that contains 3 or more 
   dashes --- as an end of message marker.  Moderators are urged 
   to check their MODerator UPdate and MODerator RULE updates to 
   insure that the only line that contains 3 or more dashes --- 
   is the final line of the information being submitted.
   The Echolist robot ignores ALL information following the
   three dashes. 

DISRUPTION OF RESPONSES/WARNINGS TO MODERATORS
   Recent tests indicate that there are no known problems with
   routed netmail from the robot to moderators.

   To insure that robot can send email responses, it is ESSENTIAL
   that all emails to echolist@fidonet.us have the first line in
   the body of the message contain:
   From: Use_your_email_address_here

ECHOLIST QUERIES
   The Echolist Robot can respond to queries and return information
   to the submitting netmail or email address.  Please see
   ECHOBASE.QUE for details.

THIRD PARTY UPDATES
   Moderators wishing to use the service of third parties to submit
   MOD UPD, MOD DEL and MOD RULE messages must notify the Echolist
   Keeper of their intention to use third parties.  The Echolist
   Keeper DECEMBER hold update messages from third parties if there is
   no confirmation message from the moderator.
   Third party submissions MUST be from the address of the updater.

IDENTIFICATION OF MODERATOR
   All moderator entries in the Echolist database MUST include, as a
   minimum, the name of the moderator and either a Fido Style address
   and/or an email address.  The  can be a person's
   name, or in "official" echoes, the position name of the moderator
   (examples: Echolist Keeper, RC13).

   Terms such as Trustee, Custodian, Emeritus, etc. are not proper
   names, and therefore can not be listed in the moderator dataline.
   These descriptions DECEMBER be used in a DESC line.


MODIFICATIONS OF LISTINGS BY ECHOLIST KEEPER
   The Echolist Keeper reserves the right to modify information in
   the Echolist database if in the opinion of the Echolist Keeper,
   the information is inaccurate, in question, or not in concert
   with the published Echolist Documents.

   In such instances the Echolist Keeper will make resonable efforts
   to contact the moderator(s) of such echoes to discuss the
   potential changes.

MESSAGE REJECTION

   The reasons for rejection of update messages are listed below, with
   the most common appearing first:

   1. Incorrect Abbreviations - While most abbreviations used with the
   Echolist Robot are accepted, the major difference is the
   TITLE of the echo.  The Echobase Robot expects an abbreviation of
   TITL, rather than TIT .

   2. Insufficient information -
   TAG, TITLe,
   MODerator,
   MODerator Address,
   PASSword and DESC are the minimum requirements.

   3. Incorrect address for Robot - ECHOLIST, ECHOBASE are the only
      "names" that the Echobase Robot recognizes at 1:1/21

   4. Incorrect Moderator Address -
      The correct format for moderator information is
      , fidonet node number, email address
      While moderator name is mandatory, an entry DECEMBER have a netmail
      address only, or an email address only, but it must have one
      of those addresses.

   5. Incorrect From Address -
      The Echolist Robot senses the  AT  in a from address and makes
      the assumption that it is an email address.  Do NOT use a 
      From: nodenumber AT fidonet, since that is an incomplete email
      address.
      If the from address is xxxxxxxx@fidonet.org or xxxxxxxx@fidonet.net,
      you must insure that a gateway system is available to deliver the mail.
    
   6. NOTE: Do NOT use email addresses in the form of your.name AT 1:261/1352
            The Robot will not process the message.

   7. REJECTING MAIL ORIGINATED BY THE ECHOLIST ROBOT
      Messages from addresses that automatically reject mail from the Echolist 
      Robot due to configuration on that end and/or mis-identification of 
      Echolist Robot messages, domain names and/or IP addresses will not
      be processed until the system causing these problems contacts the
      Echolist Keeper and indicates that problems have been rectified.  Any
      lost of listing due to the these problems is the responsibility of the
      moderator/updater. 

   8. Other Causes for rejection -
      The Echolist Keeper reserves the right to delete and/or
      refuse listings if, in the sole opinion of the Echolist
      Keeper, the message origin does not agree with the sending
      address of the updater.

WEB SITE
   ||The echolist web site DECEMBER be viewed at:
   http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/
   Visitors to previous sites are redirected to the address above.

   Visitors to the Echolist web site can now submit MOD UPD, MOD DEL,
   MOD RUL and ECHO QUERY messages to the echolist robot via a
   convenient form.

GROUP Keyword
   The GROUP keyword DECEMBER be used to identify which Fido Zone or
   Network the moderator wishes.  For FidoNet the group keywords
   DECEMBER be used as follows:
   FID1 - Zone 1       FID2 - Zone 2       FID3 - Zone 3
   FID4 - Zone 4       FID5 - Zone 5       FID6 - Zone 6
   FIDO - All Zones
   Note: The GROUP keyword has a maximum length of 4 characters

EMAIL SUBMISSIONS
   The echolist Robot now uses echolist@fidonet.us for
   submissions and queries.
   The ISP that provides service for the Echolist DECEMBER,
||   in certain circumstances, reject mail from connections with
||   dynamic domain names. those listed as open relays and any
||   listed in various SPAM databases. 

MULTIPLE SUBMISSIONS
   In some instances the echolist robot does NOT process multiple
   messages from the same moderator correctly.  It is STRONGLY
   suggested that moderators send a MOD QUERY message to the robot
   to ascertain the correctness of their listing(s).

RULES SUBMISSIONS - IMPORTANT CHANGE
   To insure proper submission of rules files, the rules text MUST
   be incorporated in the body of the message to the Echolist Robot,
   rather than as a file attachment.  The message should be
   addressed to:
   echolist 1:1/21
   subject: MOD RUL
   The text of the message MUST begin with:
   TAG the_tag_name
   PASSword the_echo_tag_password
   RULEText Rules for area the_tag_name
   Text line of Rules
   next line of rule

   NOTE: The ECHOMOD application produces the MOD RUL messages in
         the proper format.

RULES FILES VIA INTERNET
   Rules files DECEMBER be submitted to the Echolist Robot as a
   standard MOD RUL message.

FAULTY SUBMISSIONS
   Please insure that there are NO extra spaces or tabs between the
   keyword and the text in your submission messages.  The robot will
   NOT process them.

ECHOLIST Area
   The ECHOLIST echo is now a Read-Only Area.  It is reserved for
   announcements from the Robot or the Echolist Keeper.  Discussions
   and questions can be posted in the ELIST echo.

ECHOLIST CONTENT
   The echolist is designed to publish current information relative
   to echo conferences as provided by moderators.  Moderators are
   urged to submit information for inclusion in the Echolist
   database.

   The intent of the Echolist is to provide information submitted
   by moderators about echoes for which they have responsibility.

EXPIRATION WARNING MESSAGES
   Expiration Warning messages are generated on a monthly basis.
   They are netmailed to the address shown for the moderator if the
   last updated field in the database is 150 or more days older than
   the system date when the function is invoked.  A list of
   conferences for which warning messages have been generated is
   posted in the Fido ECHOLIST and ELIST echoes, and such other
   echoes as the Echolist Keeper feels will provide wide coverage.

   The following information details changes to the echobase software
   and other items of interest to Echolist users.

NON FIDO(OTHERNETS SUBMISSIONS)
   The Echobase Robot accepts submissions from non-Fido addressed
   moderators.  The response messages are placed on hold at
   1:261/1352  Messages on hold will be held for a maximum of 2
   weeks.  Moderators from Othernets are responsible for polling
   ||to receive their confirmation messages.

SUBMISSIONS VIA EMAIL
   The Echobase Robot and a companion application authored by
   Thom LaCosta process incoming email messages sent to
   echolist@fidonet.us, a gateway system hosted by 1:261/1352

   The email messages should be in the form of a netmail submitted
   message, with the requirement that the first line of the
   email text body contains
   FROM the_email_address
   TAG  the echotag
   The remainder of the lines can be in any order.

   A sample submission message is included in ECHOBASE.HLP

   The Echolist Robot does not recognize html emails.  Please adjust your
   email client to insure that the messages to the robot do not contain
   any html or other encoded material.

ANNOUNCEMENTS
   Echo announcements from the Echobase Robot are presently posted
   in the ECHOLIST echo.  Discussions pertaining to the Echolist
   and the software in use DECEMBER be made in ELIST.

SUBMISSION TOOL
   A companion application, designed to assist in automating
   moderator submissions to the Echolist Robot at 1:1/21, and other
   robots using the same submission criteria is available for File
   Request at 1:261/1352 with the magic name of ECHOMOD.
   The file can also be acquired via the Internet at
   http://www.tlchost.net/echolist

WORLD WIDE WEB
   A webpage specializing in the Robot and associated matters DECEMBER be
   accessed at http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/
   Visitors DECEMBER download EMOD331.ZIP, ECHOHELP.ZIP and view sample
   Echolists in HTML format, a sample .na file, and view a help file
   designed for moderators wishing to make submissions to the
   Echobase Robot.  The web page is updated with each publication of
   the Echolist.

HELP FILES
   For the convenience of moderators, the help file is included in the
   distribution of the Echolist.

QUESTIONS
   Questions about the echolist, echotags, lost passwords, missing
   moderators and disputes should be addressed to the Echolist
   Keeper, Thom LaCosta  1:261/1352 or via email to
   fidonet@fidonet.us

DATE SENSITIVE MATERIAL
    Effective DECEMBER, 2005. Date sensitive information about the echolist
    is now contained the in ELHIST.TXT file

Thom LaCosta 1:261/1352
fidonet AT fidonet.us
http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/

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